I don’t know if they warned him or not, but there was a referee not 5 feet from him when he did it trying to get the ball back.
I’m actually going to give Hill the benefit of the doubt and at the least say a throat slash was not his intent. Like a few here, I too looked up the sign for “rising king” and what Hill signed did look similar. BUT, if you go strictly by the eye test in split second, it’s easy to see why one would think that is a throat slash. I’ve seen multiple TCU fans say he does this everytime he scores and that’s fine. BUT, why would you do something that can potentially harm your team? I understand wanting to express your faith, so I give him a pass, but it was still foolish in that instance.
Texas Christian University, how often do you the students or faculty make that gesture in chapel or in classes on religion? In that response you have the answer to this shameful spin that Patterson tries to make on his gesture. I thought better of him. Just another insincere coach who will do or say anything to protect his players.
Devil’s Advocate:
The Rising Kings/Throat Slash actually helped TCU. Arkansas scored so quickly (partly due to good field position) that TCU was able to have two scoring opportunities. Had Arkansas had poor field position, it may have taken them longer to score. TCU didn’t mount much of a defensive effort that last possession.
It certainly helped our comeback effort so I am grateful. That would have gone down as one of the worst chokes of all Hog time. And there are some good ones in there.
It’s interesting that he would adopt a gesture that is so similar to the throat slash and expect to not get called on it. Maybe if he confined it to the sidelines, after the play, away from officials and cameras, it wouldn’t be so provocative.
Just a stupid gesture by Hill whatever it was. Looked like a throat slash. A player cannot assume the refs are up to speed on distinguishing throat slashes from king rising signals. They cut out excessive celebrations in the endzones after TD’s quite a few years back. Players were putting on pre-choreographed shows and high-fiving people in the endzone to their heart’s content. They cut it out to just allow a couple of high-fivings and hugs among the players but nothing that interfered with the flow of the game. That all to be interpreted by the ref’s judgement. Hill should have been properly coached as to football rules. Just a big mistake by TCU. Nothing less or more. Just like when their receiver stepped on the boundary line to negate their last in regulation TD.
I would like to suggest that the Razorbacks PR corp take a blown up still photo of that Kenny Hill throat slash and pay to have have it prominently placed on the front page of the Fort Worth newspaper on the Sunday before Christmas - along with the caption, “The gift that keeps on giving. MERRY CHRISTMAS to Mr. Kenny Hill and to the rest of the TCU Horned Frogs from The Arkansas Razorbacks.”
(PS) We’d like to send a really nice material gift in recognition of our continuing gratitude; - - - however, - - - unfortunately, - - - our budget has been slashed.
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Finally someone not succumbing to the PC excuses, making a great response to turn the table, and moving the discussion forward! Great job!
My point about denomination was I’ve never seen that gesture in church unless it was used in sign language to a song (can’t recall). Not arguing what it means, just saying don’t know how widely used it is. But it really doesn’t matter. It’s a moot point. TCU should have played better defense, whether the Hogs got the ball at the 42 or the 22.
That’s the reason you don’t see CBB’s players doing that crap. A Collins was the coolest as he just generously handed the ball to the nearest official and he had many a opportunity to showboat with all of the TD’s he scored here.
Remember though that Budda had to learn that lesson. As a freshman, he got in trouble for showboating after a TD. That DID NOT last.
Correct, Mr Collins was schooled early on that and it stuck.
Also CBB mentioned A Allen spiking the ball after he scored the winning TD. Was told not to do that again.
Yep, but because the game was over the instant he crossed the goal line, no penalty.
Coincidentally, I was watching a YouTube video tonight of best football trick plays. It included the Statue of Liberty play Boise State ran in overtime to beat Paperclip U in the Fiesta Bowl a few years back. When the Boise back got into the end zone, he fired the ball into the stands. Again, since the game was over when he crossed the goal line, no flag.
Judging from all the excuse making coming out of TCU at high administrative levels. TCU appears on a image rebuilding campaign for Kenny. Image is surely a sore spot at the present time with the Texas church school gang. Baylor with their routine of mistreating the assault victims of their Football players becoming a big scandal with national headlines. I remember what Lou Holtz use to say about acting crazy with dances and junk in the endzone after TD’s. Lou said, “When you score a TD, act like you have done it before.”
I have to admit it looked a little weird when I first saw the gesture. Needless to say, it can be easily misinterpreted and that might be part of the point of doing it. I understand being excited and I think that celebration penalties are often really stupid but the gesture is too ambiguous to allow.
In my day, any demonstration of any kind would have resulted in the coach putting you on the end of the bench until you realize what sportsmanship really means. And anything like a duck waddle would have brought a flag. But Hey, college football was still to a large degree a sporting event.
I agree with you all… the game was over, so no flag. But the game was technically over when OK St’s QB heaved the ball OB as time expired. So, I agree with Coach B as well. Take no chances. Nip it! Nip it in the bud! Hopefully AA got the message… I am confident that he did.
Just watched replay of game and after his demonstration and he received the penalty it shows him on the sideline acting like it was no big deal he got the penalty. You would think if you had actually given the Rising King sign you or your coaches would be pleading your case but that didn’t happen until the game was over. So I think it was exactly what everyone that saw it thought it was. WPS
It was the slash; revisionist history. Give me a break!