Extension for cbb

[bakedhog19741]

I am not challenging your assumption or the business ramifications you noted. I remember Broyles saying, “Once you start rolling contracts with these coaches, you stop, you might as well fire them right then.”

I am just stating it smacks of corruption to even start the process. If Bielema had built a successful competitive program here winning 10 games yearly or better similar to what Petrino had just done. The process of reopening and negotiating an extension to Bielema’s contract would have been fully justified and surely available unless Bielema himself felt otherwise. If Bielema had felt compelled to leave then. I say more power to him. You would have had the element of someone being here that actually wished otherwise. That being a very bad situation we could anyway now have.

These type processes just amount to golden parachutes in the business world at whatever level. A product of 21st Century decadence. Not good for anybody but those perceived as elite. I think Bielema has fully showed his coaching skills for four years here. He only coaches well after losses and cannot correct severe coaching problems as inexplicable deplorable defenses on anything but an extended long term basis. In other words, he is a poor coach on the SEC level and will soon leave here enjoying those millions Long slovenly slings at him. A couple of more years of this mediocre roller coaster football, Long & Bielema should both be fired. Long is a bureaucrat, he even talks like one. No AD!

It seems jus† useless for me to discuss things with you at times because this is seemingly how it always goes.

Me: This is how it is done for recruiting. One-year rollover, recruits see it. It’s not a big deal. It even happen under Frank Broyles when he was AD.

WarHog. I hear you, but it’s corrupt, I hate it and I hate Bret Bielema. I didn’t want him as coach, he’s very average.

Me: But he has won more games each year.

WarHog: I don’t care about that. He’s a poor coach because I say he is a poor coach. I could care less what anybody else thinks.

Me: If he gets to 4-4 in conference play after being 5-3 last season it will be only the third time in SEC play that Arkansas has ever had back-to-back non-losing records in the SEC.

WarHog: Average. Poor coach. Can’t believe Long hired him. I want him gone. He is not Bobby Petrino.

Me: What if they win 9 with the bowl?

WarHog: He’s a poor coach. He is not Bobby Petrino.

War Hog: I’ve heard his players don’t respect or fear him

Me: You have heard wrong.

WarHog: He’s gotta go.

Me: Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

That has got to be the post of the year DD!!

I have to agree pretty funny.

[worldseriesofporker]

Most college coaches get extensions to look good for recruiting.

The devil is in the details and usually aren’t much.

So the contract - as most have - will likely be rolled over a year for show.

I would flip out over it if happens. It’s just business.

I am not challenging your assumption or the business ramifications you noted. I remember Broyles saying, “Once you start rolling contracts with these coaches, you stop, you might as well fire them right then.”

I am just stating it smacks of corruption to even start the process. If Bielema had built a successful competitive program here winning 10 games yearly or better similar to what Petrino had just done. The process of reopening and negotiating an extension to Bielema’s contract would have been fully justified and surely available unless Bielema himself felt otherwise. If Bielema had felt compelled to leave then. I say more power to him. You would have had the element of someone being here that actually wished otherwise. That being a very bad situation we could anyway now have.

These type processes just amount to golden parachutes in the business world at whatever level. A product of 21st Century decadence. Not good for anybody but those perceived as elite. I think Bielema has fully showed his coaching skills for four years here. He only coaches well after losses and cannot correct severe coaching problems as inexplicable deplorable defenses on anything but an extended long term basis. In other words, he is a poor coach on the SEC level and will soon leave here enjoying those millions Long slovenly slings at him. A couple of more years of this mediocre roller coaster football, Long & Bielema should both be fired. Long is a bureaucrat, he even talks like one. No AD!

It seems jus† useless for me to discuss things with you at times because this is seemingly how it always goes.

Me: This is how it is done for recruiting. One-year rollover, recruits see it. It’s not a big deal. It even happen under Frank Broyles when he was AD.

WarHog. I hear you, but it’s corrupt, I hate it and I hate Bret Bielema. I didn’t want him as coach, he’s very average.

Me: But he has won more games each year.

WarHog: I don’t care about that. He’s a poor coach because I say he is a poor coach. I could care less what anybody else thinks.

Me: If he gets to 4-4 in conference play after being 5-3 last season it will be only the third time in SEC play that Arkansas has ever had back-to-back non-losing records in the SEC.

WarHog: Average. Poor coach. Can’t believe Long hired him. I want him gone. He is not Bobby Petrino.

Me: What if they win 9 with the bowl?

WarHog: He’s a poor coach. He is not Bobby Petrino.

War Hog: I’ve heard his players don’t respect or fear him

Me: You have heard wrong.

WarHog: He’s gotta go.

Me: Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

:lol:

[porkdiet]

Happy Thanksgiving?

Uh Oh. Brown Friday is this week. :idea:

[Baumbastic_Hawg]

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Me: Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

[warhog38]

Most college coaches get extensions to look good for recruiting.

The devil is in the details and usually aren’t much.

So the contract - as most have - will likely be rolled over a year for show.

I would flip out over it if happens. It’s just business.

I am not challenging your assumption or the business ramifications you noted. I remember Broyles saying, “Once you start rolling contracts with these coaches, you stop, you might as well fire them right then.”

I am just stating it smacks of corruption to even start the process. If Bielema had built a successful competitive program here winning 10 games yearly or better similar to what Petrino had just done. The process of reopening and negotiating an extension to Bielema’s contract would have been fully justified and surely available unless Bielema himself felt otherwise. If Bielema had felt compelled to leave then. I say more power to him. You would have had the element of someone being here that actually wished otherwise. That being a very bad situation we could anyway now have.

These type processes just amount to golden parachutes in the business world at whatever level. A product of 21st Century decadence. Not good for anybody but those perceived as elite. I think Bielema has fully showed his coaching skills for four years here. He only coaches well after losses and cannot correct severe coaching problems as inexplicable deplorable defenses on anything but an extended long term basis. In other words, he is a poor coach on the SEC level and will soon leave here enjoying those millions Long slovenly slings at him. A couple of more years of this mediocre roller coaster football, Long & Bielema should both be fired. Long is a bureaucrat, he even talks like one. No AD!

It seems jus† useless for me to discuss things with you at times because this is seemingly how it always goes.

Me: This is how it is done for recruiting. One-year rollover, recruits see it. It’s not a big deal. It even happen under Frank Broyles when he was AD.

WarHog. I hear you, but it’s corrupt, I hate it and I hate Bret Bielema. I didn’t want him as coach, he’s very average.

Me: But he has won more games each year.

WarHog: I don’t care about that. He’s a poor coach because I say he is a poor coach. I could care less what anybody else thinks.

Me: If he gets to 4-4 in conference play after being 5-3 last season it will be only the third time in SEC play that Arkansas has ever had back-to-back non-losing records in the SEC.

WarHog: Average. Poor coach. Can’t believe Long hired him. I want him gone. He is not Bobby Petrino.

Me: What if they win 9 with the bowl?

WarHog: He’s a poor coach. He is not Bobby Petrino.

War Hog: I’ve heard his players don’t respect or fear him

Me: You have heard wrong.

WarHog: He’s gotta go.

Me: Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

I only used Petrino as a reference due to his relatively recent departure as Hog coach and the belief by way too many on this board (in my opinion) that mediocrity is just the fulfillment of Razorback destiny in the SEC. Petrino is proof a good coach can rapidly exceed the winning numbers of a coach as Bielema. However I want no one on this board to misconstrue that into meaning I want Petrino back as Hog coach. I do not!

I have heard nothing about player negativity towards Bielema but that is not the type information a common fan as me is privy to anyway. An assumption on such matters is most likely all that can ever be made by any fan. I have heard people and even players themselves refer to a head coach as a father figure. I was never involved in football as a youth but I can fully relate to the father aspect. I did “respect or fear” my father as a kid. The last thing I wished in the world was to badly disappoint him to the point of him being mad. I just do not see anything close to that type “respect or fear” of any coach by any Razorback defensive player this year.

I know I am somewhat ahead of the curve deeply analyzing this coach. It will suffice to describe this past four years as football mediocrity. Going on about absolutely inexcusable horrendous defensive stats just irritates some fans who only desire a bright future. Time will tell.

You have a Happy Thanksgiving too.

[warhog38]

“It is something that exists within every college football program in this country but is rarely if ever discussed in detail. It is the relationship between a coach and his players. It basically boils down to two things, LOYALTY and/or RESPECT. I think every coach from Petrino back to Broyles has accomplished manifesting either one or both of these qualities within his player’s mental attitude towards him.”

This would be a sound theory if Petrino had good defenses when he was here. He didn’t. Broyles did have good defenses, but Petrino had a more “bend, don’t break” defense, just so his offense could do enough to win.

Petrino did not recruit well on defense here, he gave way too many scholarships to offensive players especially to receivers. Petrino having a strong defense here was just simply a physical impossibility no matter the coaching.

[warhog38]

“It is something that exists within every college football program in this country but is rarely if ever discussed in detail. It is the relationship between a coach and his players. It basically boils down to two things, LOYALTY and/or RESPECT. I think every coach from Petrino back to Broyles has accomplished manifesting either one or both of these qualities within his player’s mental attitude towards him.”

This would be a sound theory if Petrino had good defenses when he was here. He didn’t. Broyles did have good defenses, but Petrino had a more “bend, don’t break” defense, just so his offense could do enough to win.

Petrino did not ever recruit well on defense here. He gave way too many scholarships to offensive players especially to receivers. Petrino having a strong defense here was just simply a physical impossibility no matter the coaching.

[soarkhog]

Petrino is an example of how fast a big-name coach can impact a program and have success. He also came at a time when the state produced some great offensive players and a Big Ten quarterback who chose to be closer to home (technically, from Texarkana, Texas, that’s why I say closer to home). But could he have sustained that success? Many big-name coaches start big but have trouble maintaining it. Will CBB get it done long term? Who knows? Time will tell.

[marcm]

He’s on a roll.
I say 20 million spread over 6 months.

Pork last night I was at the Buffalo Wild Wings on Cantrell. You know what I seen? I seen Gruden. :shock: And he was talkin to guys in suits! I think something really big is about to happen.

Lmao!!