Historically we have had a dearth of African American players on our team.
Great to see Franklin, Washington, and Harris not only on the team but playing important roles.
Agree
(Hey Scott!)
Wax
I was thinking the same thing, Scott. I commented during the CWS that the rosters there, not just ours but a lot of teams, were virtually lily-white. Molester U had one black kid and one Asian, IIRC. We had Campbell, basically. Youth baseball has gotten so expensive with travel teams and whatnot that it has priced a lot of families out of the market, which has made it even more overwhelmingly Caucasian. But clearly there are African-American kids in Arkansas who can play (the LSU recruit from Ashdown whose name escapes me is another example) and I’m glad we’re getting some of them.
Long time no see, Wax!
Agree.
Simply amazing.
Many athletes, of all nationalities, are lured to football or basketball because they can get a full free ride. Unless your family is well to do, a half scholarship in baseball just does not get it. I’m glad to see the few minorities we have though and the fact that DVH got them here. Love the Hog baseball!
A half scholarship is actually a large scholarship in today’s world. With only 11.7 available, many are given the minimum of 25%.
I had hoped the lottery scholarships would help lower the effective tuition rates at the UA. Doesn’t appear to have been as successful as I’d hoped. Nonetheless, it is difficult for poor kids who are great athletes to go with baseball rather than one of the full scholarship sports. I, too, was glad to see those three getting significant PT as valuable contributors. Add in Campbell and we have a nice increase above our historical levels.
It’s always possible that, as LSU has done, some of the in-state kids are coming on lottery money, saving the 11.7 for out of state kids like Wicklander and Kjerstad.
For some reason I thought they had to be on 33 percent? I thought it was raised. Once was 25 percent.
Nope, I’ve looked this up several times:
[quote]Under NCAA rules, these 11.7 scholarships can be divided between a maximum of 27 players, with all players on athletic scholarship having to receive a minimum of a 25% scholarship.
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And the rule itself. Rule 15.5.4 applies specifically to baseball and mentions that there can be 27 players getting those 11.7 scholies; this is a subsection:
[quote]15.5.4.1 Minimum Equivalency Value. An institution shall provide each counter athletically related and
other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than 25 percent of an equivalency.
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In NCAAese, that means each player gets at least 25 percent of a scholarship.
Getting back to my point earlier in the thread, we have 39 guys on the roster. Only 27 of them can be on scholarship. That tells you that 12 of them are either walk-ons or on lottery money, or in the case of Connor Noland, on football scholarship. Excluding Noland, we have nine in-state players. Are all of them on lottery money? Maybe.
And the rule itself. Rule 15.5.4 applies specifically to baseball and mentions that there can be 27 players getting those 11.7 scholies; this is a subsection:
[quote]15.5.4.1 Minimum Equivalency Value. An institution shall provide each counter athletically related and
other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than 25 percent of an equivalency.
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In NCAAese, that means each player gets at least 25 percent of a scholarship.
Getting back to my point earlier in the thread, we have 39 guys on the roster. Only 27 of them can be on scholarship. That tells you that 12 of them are either walk-ons or on lottery money, or in the case of Connor Noland, on football scholarship. Excluding Noland, we have nine in-state players. Are all of them on lottery money? Maybe.
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There are a lot of ways to be creative. Pell money, lottery scholarships, academic money, border state tuition, and an even broader out of state tuition benefit can be available. The first year is the most expensive. After that, kids can live off campus and can cram a few into an apartment even though whatever scholarship money they get is based on other measures for room and board. A 50% scholarship to an out of state student is worth a lot more dollars than a 50% scholarship to an in state student. Mixing and matching all these numbers can be a full time job and well worth it for a high D1 school.
There are a lot of ways to be creative. Pell money, lottery scholarships, academic money, border state tuition, and an even broader out of state tuition benefit can be available. The first year is the most expensive. After that, kids can live off campus and can cram a few into an apartment even though whatever scholarship money they get is based on other measures for room and board. A 50% scholarship to an out of state student is worth a lot more dollars than a 50% scholarship to an in state student. Mixing and matching all these numbers can be a full time job and well worth it for a high D1 school.
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Good point. Pell plays in for most sports, maybe not so much in baseball because of the way it skews socioeconomically. I’m sure border state plays in; we have a lot of kids from Oklahoma, Texas, Memphis, etc.
Marty nailed this, my nephew pitched at Duke (graduated 2 years ago) and I’d say .25 to .33 is a big scholarship for most baseball players