OM Ace Hunter Elliott Elbow injury

Its being reported that Elliott their ace LH has a sever elbow injury of some type.Coach Bianco was to speak on it,would be a massive loss for them if he is gone for the yr. I think with all these arm injuries now days it makes you wonder is it bc how they are being trained??

It has to be a good day for me to even be able to spell baseball, but it is my understanding that putting the high rate of spin (RPM) on the baseball that makes it so hard to hit is very hard on the elbow, and yes the pitchers are trained on how to do this.

There has to be something to it because back in the old days kids threw more and had less arm problems, it’s a strange phenomenon to me but there are way more arm injuries than I can ever remember.


Kids are throwing more junk at younger ages.


Back in the old days kids weren’t throwing 98+ with 3000 rpm spin rates. Or playing baseball 12 months a year. Some of them even played football and basketball!


Yeah the high spin rate may have something to do with it…
Elliot is not a real hard thrower but supposedly he has a severe injury of some type

Dave Van Horn told me a couple of weeks ago that he doesn’t necessarily think there are more elbow injuries now than in the past. He thinks they are just reported on more because of the growth in popularity of the college game.

could be true

My 13 year old grandson is a pitcher and hurt his elbow late last summer. It was not serious enough for surgery but PT for a couple of months and did not pitch all fall. His dad is a pitching coach here in Chattanooga and is very protective of his pitch counts. Protective of all his players arms.


I definitely agree with the pitch counts on the young kids. We didn’t have that back in the day ,they didn’t monitor us too much on those type things or throwing breaking balls because I threw a ton of them LOL
I didn’t run into arm problems until I was a senior in high school and that was probably more my fault because I went outside on a day that was too cool for not having my elbow covered and was working on throwing down to second base and felt something get in there and I never could really get it out and eventually went up into my shoulder where it had stayed the rest of my life!
Hopefully he will be able to not have any problems like that.


It’s not as much how they are trained but how good they are at pinpointing injuries with technology. The old “dead arm” diagnosis is not the answer nearly as much.

My memory in this area is not real good, and I’m sure that you have access to data that I do not. However, I seem to recall that 90+ MPH pitchers were a rarity.

I recall the same thing.

I remember hearing a TV commentator in the early 80’s saying the average MLB fastball was 89 mph.

Of course, now all of them throw over 90.

Addendum to above. In the 80’s, the guns measured pitch speed when the ball crossed home plate.

Now, they measure it just after it leaves the pitcher’s hand.

The ball loses a little speed between the Pitcher and home plate. Not much, but some.

Dave Jorn told me radar guns today are hotter. He said his fast ball was 87-88 on a 1980 gun. He said it would be 92-94 on today’s gun. He said it with authority. He said there were plenty throwing harder than he did. He said velocity was plenty good in 80s.

Could I possibly somehow use this in my defense of a speeding ticket that I just got in my 1980 model car?


You could but it won’t go too well.

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