Matt, Clay, Dudley: Why not Kiffin?

Some people are totally against him. Maybe I’ve missed something. He seems to be the most qualified.

Has he done anything unethical, like Petrino?
Is he a known cheater?

All I’ve heard people say is that he’s immature.
Are they talking about the 35-year-old Kiffin, or the post Saban 42-year-old Kiffin?

Is it his tweets? Isn’t that his way of relating to recruits and his players? Isn’t that a plus?
Gundy and Leach could be called immature, too.

I don’t understand how Saban could be fine with Kiffin, but for some reason he’s not good enough for us?

I really want to know. What’s the issue with Kiffin?

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Some people are totally against him. Maybe I’ve missed something. He seems to be the most qualified.

Has he done anything unethical, like Petrino?
Is he a known cheater?

All I’ve heard people say is that he’s immature.
Are they talking about the 35-year-old Kiffin, or the post Saban 42-year-old Kiffin?

Is it his tweets? Isn’t that his way of relating to recruits and his players? Isn’t that a plus?
Gundy and Leach could be called immature, too.

I don’t understand how Saban could be fine with Kiffin, but for some reason he’s not good enough for us?

I really want to know. What’s the issue with Kiffin?
[/quote]Did you miss the part last season where Saban told Kiffin to find another job? Not publicly, of course . . . but it was common knowledge and widely reported.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba … ee-raiders

I’m none of them, but.

He has no NCAA violations.
The dislike comes from him bailing on Tennessee for a job at USC, can’t blame him.
His immaturity is based of his Twitter, which if you watch any of his interviews is a tool he used to recruit.

As far as Lane Kiffin the coach.

It’s note worthy that you don’t work for Saban unless you are an elite coach.

He is an elite offensive coach.

He’s a great, great recruiter…

He is a little whacky? Yeah.
Is his twitter immature? I guess, it’s funny to me and if it helps in recruiting, go for it.

He’d have to sell me that he wouldn’t bail for the next best job that came along.

However, I believe him when he said he’s a much different and better coach than he was pre-Alabama. I think he’s learned from his mistakes and will be a very good coach somewhere there than FAWho sometime soon.

He’s the best candidate between him Norvell and Morris.

No doubt the most experienced, best connected, and knows what it takes.

The kids love him.

Would have to keep his alter ego Joey freshwater out of the kappa house for sure.

Guy has behaved somewhat for a year. He has kids living in California with his ex. I say we pass on him

I’d love to have kiffin

This is a 2013 article, before Kiffin spent 3 years under Saban, and before Kiffin took FAU from 6 years of 1-11, 2-9, 6-6, 3-9, 3-9 and 3-9 to 10-3 in his first year.

By that logic, we just tried to throw $50 million at a coach Auburn wanted to fire, a coach that had a run of 2-10 over 12 SEC games from 2014-2016. A coach that just a year ago, had a hard time winning even 8 games with much more talent at Auburn.

Things change. Malzahn has matured and grown as a coach. Kiffin has matured and grown as a coach.

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Just did a little research: Kiffin was named the FAU HC on December 12. Saban released him on January 2, after the first playoff game win against Washington, and before the NCG, when he thought that Kiffin was distracted with his new job.

[quote=“TVGHog”]

Well, they spun it as a “mutual decision” for Kiffin to depart immediately. But it was obvious to everyone that Saban had told him to find a new job, and when he did, he told him to hit the road.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-footb … ian-010217

How’d that work out for Saban?

His offense has missed Kiffin this season, and in that National championship game.

He’s probably always been mad at Kiffin, because the one time Saban beat Kiffin while he was at UT, Kiffin told him that would be the last time he ever beat him.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to hire Lane Kiffin and remove all doubt.

Just an opinion.

There are wives that will love him also. Don’t bring him to NWA,

If so, then they shouldn’t be married to their husband.

Not a good enough reason for me.

I want to win football games.

homerun hire

instant relevance

huge recruiting bump

great offensive mind

i dont think we should let the “wives of NWA” scare us off

Agreed.

Here are some why nots:

Mediocre record at USC (28-15) and fired after five games into his fourth year for losing the team.

5-15 record as head coach of the Raiders, fired a third of the way through the second season.

Handled departure from Tennessee very badly and left destruction in his wake. (It is still a mess there).

Constantly clashed with his boss at Alabama where superior talent was able to execute whatever they were asked to do. Left on bad terms.

The one bright spot: turned FAU from a loser to a winner in one season. But it’s one season at a school in a state with a great recruiting base.

Norvell did it 2 years without the huge recruiting advantage and playing better competition.

Kiffin feels like a ticking time bomb to me. Best go another way.

For me, integrity matters.

I would prefer we not sell our collective soul for a low character but exciting coach.

We did that once. That should be enough.

I agree with you about character. However, I haven’t heard of any character issues with Kiffin, only personality issues.

google joey freshwater. Check out him and the sorority houses at Alabama.

God only knows how he and the florida co-eds have gotten along this year. Kappa house watch out if he is hired is all I am saying. Wives may be a little too old for his taste!

I am willing to assume that the vetting process would give you enough information to make an informed decision as to whether he’s matured enough to avoid putting a motorcycle in a ditch with a couple of drunk under-aged coeds hanging onto the back.

What I am not convinced about is whether his previous coaching stops provide any indication that he can do more than have a good offense and have an initial recruiting splash. He just has not shown any ability to lead a program successfully past the first year or two, and he has shown lots of ability to screw things up after initial success. That’s my single biggest worry about Kiffin, he just does not have what it takes to keep a program stable.

A secondary concern is that he won’t stay long. Hard to believe you could negotiate a big buyout for him to take another job without agreeing to a big buyout if you have to fire him. That is kind of a problem for a guy with his employment history.