I agree. Integrity eventually pays off. Ole Miss, Baylor made it hard to swallow that we weren’t winning more, but I sure wouldn’t trade places with them now. And, yeah, there’s a good chance some things will show up in other programs (football & basketball), too.
Jeff Long has proved integrity matters here. It doesn’t at Louisville. Their glory days might be about to end. (And just to be clear, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some issues come up at MSU & Auburn, either.) I want to win as much as the next fan, but I want to do it right. JL, MA, & BB all seem to be doing it right.
It all comes down to an old saying: “It’s never wrong to do right, and it’s never right to do wrong.” That applies to NCAA sports as much as anything. I’d rather go 0-12 with integrity than 15-0 with a national championship taken off the board three years later by an investigation.
But most on here do not care so long as they can say we won a NC
Look at Ole miss now they are in CYA mode
I always want to win and so long as it’s in the rules then do whatever u can
But to have wins and championships pulled like at USC is ridiculous
Taking the cheating shortcut to get a win or a bunch of wins means it’s not a game anymore. I will eventually get over losing a game that is fairly played. I still hate Texas for
blatant cheating to ROB our Razorbacks of a win.
I still hate Tennessee for the ROBBERY in the '71 Liberty
Bowl. Being present at those games burned the memory in my mind. I would not be sad if Texas and Tennessee ended each year with no wins.
yeah, stealing signs in baseball is part of the sport itself. You’re right, that’s not what we’re talking about here. This is cheating any way you slice it. Like you, I hated the rules that prevented a coach, fan, or virtually any caring human being from helping some poor kid get a ride home, have a warm coat, or eat a meal without getting in trouble with the NCAA. Fortunately, those times have changed. The scholarships meet those basic needs & then some. However, if we paid each kid $100,000 per year to play on the team, there’d be some booster or agent somewhere figuring out a way to cheat to get a kid $110,000 to go to their school.
There is a certain inequity for places like Alabama. It’s easy for them mot to cheat because they enjoy such tremendous recruiting advantages. Ole Miss doesn’t enjoy those & when their recruiting classes went to the top, we all knew something funny was going on. And, yeah, I’d suspect that of us if we suddenly had a top 5 recruiting class. I don’t want us to cheat to get there. Even if that means more 7-5 seasons than 10-2 seasons.
Glad you mentioned that often overlooked fact. When there are few good recruits in Ark, we’re going to have problems. A Joe Adams & Jarius Wright et al players don’t come around that often. Ark isn’t producing the number of quality recruits as it did in days of yesteryear. (Or maybe we didn’t need as much talent to compete, I don’t know.) Regardless, we’re not able to stock up on Little Rock, Pine Bluff & Eastern Ark players as we once did. There just don’t seem to be quite as many as there once were.
I have seen a lot of “What does the win at all cost crowd have to say now?” type posts.
I’ve not seen anyone on here advocating a win at all costs mantra. When Jeff Long talks about that it is such a strawman.
Winning at all costs has nothing to do with getting the ball at your own 40 yard line, having 1:47 left on the clock, 3 timeouts and sitting on the ball.
Winning at all costs has nothing to do with continually trotting Cole Hedlund out to kick FGs when he has shown no ability to do so on the big stage.
Winning at all costs has nothing to do with not hiring a special teams coordinator.
Did Nolan Richardson win at all costs? Did Houston Nutt win at all costs?
I think we can all be level headed about this. I don’t recall a big outrage at Mike Anderson when we lost Reggie Perry. I think most saw the writing on the wall there.
Being frustrated with the current football coach and athletic director does not mean one wants to win at all costs. It just means you think that we can do better. I’ve got no reason to think CBB is not a good person. In fact, twice CBB visited a young, dear, lifelong friend of mine, on his own time, while he was dying of cancer (and my friend does not live in NWA). For that I will always be grateful and I know how much it meant to him and his family. I’ve had to do a mea culpa in regards to CBB because in the past I have said he was disingenuous at times. I believe he has integrity. I also have no reason to doubt that Jeff Long has integrity.
I also don’t think either has done particularly well recently at their job that they are paid handsomely to do.