If Allen doesn’t get in the end zone, does CBB go for the win on fourth down? After calling for a QB sweep on third and goal, I’m guessing that was the plan. If that had happened, I would have supported the decision to go for it, win or lose. If you’ve got a couple of yards for an upset on the road, I think you take your shot, especially with some key players cramping. I’m glad it wasn’t necessary, though.
We started talking about that on the sideline after the first overtime.
I think given what you said (cramping issues, road game), he probably would’ve gone for it if Austin had gotten anywhere close on third down. The defense had gotten its stop and it felt like Arkansas had to cash in.
I agree that it was four-down territory unless AA had been tackled at the 4 or 5.
Discussed this with a friend of mine yesterday. We both guessed that Coach B was going to go for it on 4th down if Allen got close on his run. Thankfully, it didn’t come to that.
I think if he’d been stopped inside the 3, he’d have probably gone for it.
I heard Patterson’s post-game remarks & he said he wanted to go for 2 on their last regulation TD but got talked out of it. His logic was good: make it & they’re up by 9 & we’re 2 scores behind. Miss & they’re up by 7 & if we score we still only tie it with a TD (assuming we wouldn’t have gone for 2.). At the time I thought they’d kick the PAT because going up by 8 still forced us to score both the TD & convert a 2-pt conversion. In retrospect Patterson made the wrong decision because we managed to do just that, but it’s an interesting thought to contemplate.
Of course, in retrospect I wouldn’t have changed one play in the game because one never knows how it would change the game’s dynamic. Even had we made the FG to go up 16, it’s easy to see a slight change in play calling at that point where the game dynamic results in a TCU. Since we won, I’ll even take the missed FG that at the time I thought was devastating.
I think kicking the PAT was the right call, statistically, before the play. Couldn’t find conversion percentage for 2-point play at college level, but NFL rate was reported at 48.2%. By kicking the PAT, there was essentially no way TCU could lose in regulation. Arkansas had to score in the 2-minute drill, then attempt a play that has proven successful less than half the time. Although, 48.2% is pretty darn close to making the argument moot.
Hindsight is 20/20, but imagine if he’d gone for 2, missed, then we tied with PAT kick and won in overtime. Or if we’d scored, then converted our own 2-point play to go up by one point and then won. Patterson would’ve been ridiculed to high heaven.
I think he would have gone for the win just like he did at Ole Miss
That will be asked and answered today
Of course he goes on 4th down. Of course.
I was watching on TV and thought Patterson was going to send #7 back out there for a shot at the two-pointer. I was happy when they went with the one-pointer.
It’s hard to keep from scoring when you have the opportunity; however, if the TCU QB had fallen to the ground at the 2 instead of scoring, the game would have been over. They’d have been able to do the “borderline erotic” thing to us.
We had one time out, and there was just 2:05 left to play at that point. The clock stopped for the TD. If he had not scored, the game clock would have stopped for about 5 seconds while they moved the chains, then started again. So, we either take the time out there (at 2:05) and they take 3 knees (or stand back there until someone gets to the runner, to burn a few seconds), with 40 seconds per play and it’s over. Or, they wait until after the first play (as the clock runs down to about 1:30), and they have 2 plays with 40 seconds in between to do the same thing.
He said today they’d have gone for it if it was on the 1 or 2, but probably would’ve kicked the FG if they’d been on the 3 or further out. Enos said he thought Austin got tackled at the 1 and was looking down at his call sheet for a fourth-down play when the team ran onto the field to mob Austin.
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I heard Patterson’s post-game remarks & he said he wanted to go for 2 on their last regulation TD but got talked out of it. His logic was good: make it & they’re up by 9 & we’re 2 scores behind. Miss & they’re up by 7 & if we score we still only tie it with a TD (assuming we wouldn’t have gone for 2.). At the time I thought they’d kick the PAT because going up by 8 still forced us to score both the TD & convert a 2-pt conversion. In retrospect Patterson made the wrong decision because we managed to do just that, but it’s an interesting thought to contemplate.
[/quote]I think TCU made the right call. Did you notice the Hog offense in the second half; where were they before the last series? The likelihood of the Hogs scoring and getting a 2 pt conversion were remote.
It really is amazing that the Hogs were able to regroup at the end. That is under-appreciated.
If we’d missed the 2-point play (remember there was 1:05 left), you have time to onside kick, recover somewhere around our 45 to midfield, and gain at least 25 yards for a field goal try (we still had a timeout too, which we used to ice the kicker before Skipper’s block). Of course, recovering the onside is the dicey part, but if you do that, the game is quite winnable if you execute the drive and the FG. Heck, maybe we score another TD and don’t need the winning FG.