How does K State do it?

Consistently a good program. Even after Snyder retired. I know they don’t get any better players than we do. Or do they? I know we have better facilities. Obviously they have a program established and good coaching. Two strikes against AR.

Playing in the Big 12 helps. Aside from Oklahoma, the programs in that conference seem wildly inconsistent year-to-year.

Wonder how many Big 12 teams we could beat this year

I wouldn’t say they are a good program. They are a middle of the road team that occasionally upsets a team like Oklahoma or Texas.

we don’t surprise no one. we are the ones that get surprised.