--------------------- maybe after Christmas and after some vaccines have been used and have proven to help. I see them cancelling ALL fall games totally in ALL colleges and in ALL sports. We could have football immediately followed by baseball and both overlapping basketball and track ALL in the spring. JMVVVVVHO
Football this fall is looking less likely. I just hope that basketball can be played ------------------
I thought the virus would really slow down in the summertime but knew if it didn’t we were in trouble as far as having any kind of sports and it’s looking like it’s headed that way.
I hope we are both wrong but I, too, am afraid we aren’t.
Basketball is more of a problem than football because it’s played indoors. Like football, you have players in each others’ faces & breathing hard. Unless there’s a vaccine–almost impossible before Christmas–I don’t see basketball happening, either. I still have hope for baseball & spring football, but have almost no hope for fall football.
I hope we are wrong too but this disease is very strange! Nobody really has a clue really what it even is. Something doesn’t seem right about it but we all must do the best we can to protect ourselves and everybody else that’s really the most important thing.
It’s all about health & safety now. Just hope it doesn’t become all about survival.
Sports may become an afterthought.
My prediction is that football will not be played but basketball will happen with no fans.
I think over the next few months, there will be governmental mandates that will force young people and the resistance to comply with the health guidelines and this country will be able to control the virus. Other countries have done it. The state of New York is now in much better shape having put in strict guidelines at the beginning.
There is hope. I am not giving up on basketball.
Government mandates on this virus? Maybe next February. JS
Like a mask mandate. I think the numbers are going to force states to mandate it. I wasn’t thinking a federal mandate.
Here in Texas the governor FINALLY put a mask mandate in place a week or so back…I was at the grocery store over the weekend and still saw people running around without a mask…maybe 20-25%. Unless you have a mandate with teeth in it…and the US doesn’t have the stomach for that…a large part of our population will keep on disobeying it. Who knows why? Maybe because it’s the ONLY thing in their world they can control…and it makes them feel “powerful” to defy the government…I don’t know.
I work with people who live in India and if you don’t comply with their govt’s rules (curfew, wearing a mask) they will enforce it with a billy club if they have to, and arresting people. I don’t want to see that here, but those who continue risky behavior in the face of spiking numbers making it difficult to get a handle on this problem.
I never thought there would be any sports this yr, except for MLB, you can potentially play that safely. One of these kids gets sick and dies, they’re going to have a heck of a lawsuit against the NCAA, Conference, and University. That NBA and WNBA thing in Orlando is a joke, it’s going to be a disaster. They’re basically incarcerating grown men for several months away from their family and friends. I’m guessing tempers are going to be flaring at record levels in about a month. That, and without the crowd noise, you’re going to hear more smack.
I don’t see how you can play football or basketball this yr, you gotta D up and sweat to be successful in those sports. Someone is going to get sick, and the players are not paying that hospital bills themselves. Some of those patients are staying in the hospital for up to 4 months.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to just close in-store purchases/visits? Almost everyone offers either curbside pickup or home delivery.
Masks provide a false sense of security. While it probably helps, it definitely does not stop the spread of this disease. I know of an entire office of people that were infected and all of whom were required to wear masks. (none required hospitalization and most didn’t know they had it)
Will the vaccine be mandated? Will there not be a large group that will refuse the vaccine? There are anti-vaxers now.
I’m 64 and in pretty good health, I’m cautious but not overly concerned. I am conscious of those around me, keep my distance (physical distancing is what should be practiced and not social distancing - hate that term) and wear my mask when needed. But the mask is the only thing new for me.
I sincerely hope that we don’t start enforcing mask rules with clubs. There will be a backlash that wouldn’t be pretty.
What source are you using to make that statement? None of the health experts I have watched on regular TV have said that it is 100% protection but no one has gone as far as you have.
Well the boxes the masks come it state it clearly that they will not stop it and again, it was a personal experience where masks were required in an office since March and one person contracted the virus and gave it to the other 8 people within a week or so while all were wearing masks and hand sanitizing etc…
Early on the CDC and others stated that masks, cloth masks in particular, were not really of great value. Like I also said, I’m sure they help but to think your safe while wearing one is simply not the case. Not advocating for not wearing them just buyer beware.
I’m not a medical expert on TV by any means, but I do stay at a HI Express on occasion.
I believe the mask is to protect others, not the wearer. Distance is the magic word.
Glad NY reached zero deaths recently. Unfortunately, Gov Cuomo earlier wiped out about 6,200 in the nursing homes after he ordered C19 patients into the nursing homes. Additionally, no telling how many people got infected because of the use of the mass transient including subways.
Agreed but even then… as you say, distance, physical distance, is the key along with good manners and hygiene.
That’s CYA language. The lawyers put that there. As for statements that were made by CDC and others in March and April, (1) we know more now than we did then, and (2) a big part of the concern was that the general public might buy up all the masks and not leave any for the healthcare providers.
I saw a photo this morning in three parts: Two people standing six feet apart with no masks, the same two people standing six feet apart with only one wearing a mask, and the same two in the same places both wearing masks. They used smoke or something to illustrate the spread of droplets. No masks, the smoke was flying in both directions and reaching the other, With one mask, that unmasked person was spraying droplets that reached the other. With two masks, there were virtually no droplets at all.
Masks do not have to be tight enough to stop the virus, which is tiny, Virus is not flying around on its own, It’s flying around in droplets of spit or something coming out of the respiratory tract, and cloth masks are tight enough to stop those. However, no mask is tight enough to stop oxygen molecules, which is an extremely uninformed excuse I’ve seen.
And calling the Hogs is an excellent way to propel many, many droplets into the air, which is why we ain’t gonna be attending games this fall if there are any games at all.
The reason healthcare providers in hospitals have been in such jeopardy is that they’re exposed to the virus all day, every day. In those situations, masks and gloves and washing aren’t adequate, and you really can’t social distance in that situation if you’re taking care of patients. But if you wear your mask and wash your hands and stay away from others as best you can, the chance of transmission (to or from you) is greatly reduced. Not zero, but greatly reduced,
We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4
We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods.
Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H.
Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H.
Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, MA
Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.
Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA
Since publication of their article, the authors report no further potential conflict of interest.
This letter was published on June 3, 2020, at NEJM.org.