Big10 pulls plug

Understand there are a large number of dorm room cancellations this Fall after the University waived the on campus dorm requirement for incoming freshman. Many are either concerned about exposure in the dorms or the expectation that on campus classes will be cancelled.

I don’t think any freshmen prefer a dorm over an apartment. I sure would not. Eating in a university cafeteria does not seem like the right approach either.

I am hopeful the SEC waits a little longer. There seems to be lots of time to still make a decision not to play.

I would guess they CAN stay at home and take classes on line. Whether they do is up to each person.

you’re missing 2 things, at least

  1. online classes this spring were a complete joke. I cannot explain just how much of a joke, since no one would believe it unless they watched their kid “take class” March-May. Complete waste of my money and my son’s time. So if the object of college is to learn stuff…ANYTHING, then online classes, as they were at UA this past spring, completely fails to accomplish that.

  2. Once “online classes” started, what did all those kids do? ran to Florida, and the beach, the lakes, etc. frats are still rushing, my son’s girlfriend had to leave her lifeguarding job last week, to go to fayetteville, for the sorority rush stuff. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I promise you, these athletes are MUCH better off under the guidance of their coaches/strength coaches.

  3. Here’s another angle-remember how many athletes arrived for summer workouts, and were positive covid? I think that LSU, Bama and Clemson each had about 25 cases. Now how many do they have? UA tested 200 a week or so ago, with zero positive. Notre Dame tested 400, with zero positive. I’d bet anyone anything, that if you compared the college football players and staffs of all the power 5 schools, vs any other group in America, you’d be very hard pressed to find a lower covid positive %.

GHG

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I get that, but I did not think if classes are all on line that they would play football.

For sure, you can if you keep them safe if they are just taking on-line classes.

I do hope we wait longer to pull the plug. I don’t see a need to do that now.

That’s a major problem in my view. On line classes beat nothing, I suppose, but not by much. Seems like the UA has had several online classes for the last 20 years or so. I’m not sure how extensive the internet part was, but I never thought that was a good idea. Unfortunately, this is such an unusual time, I’m not sure there is much option other than to cancel most classes altogether. In fact, that might be a viable option, but talk about a huge economic blow…

I don’t have quite the faith you have that athletes will adhere to the isolation coaches would like to impose upon them. Right now it hasn’t been too hard. That’s likely to change once school starts. The rush parties are invitations to virus transmission. One infected rushee can pass it on to several frat/sorority houses. Once school starts, there’ll be more parties. Most kids won’t get infected. Most of those infected won’t get terribly ill. However, a sizable minority will get quite ill & will pass it on to parents & grandparents in due time unless the same kids who are impulsive enough to attend those parties are self-disciplined enough to stay away from their elders. (Maybe their elders will stay away from them.)

My daughter is taking on-line courses to get Masters in education administration to become a principal. It is exhausting work. I’ve seen it. She has written huge numbers of essays to prove she has learned the material. So you can learn on-line if it’s done right.

It’s all in the preparation for the course. If you want to prepare a course that requires exhaustive research and written material by the student for each lesson (and also graded and examined in detail by a professor), it can be done.

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Hate to say it, but Masters students are probably a wee bit more dedicated to the learning experience than the typical college freshman or sophomore. (I always thought the best thing we could do for HS grads was to send them off to fun camp for a year before we sent them to college. Let them get some of that crap out of their system & then become serious students as 19 year old freshmen. Well, I thought that when I was a freshman, anyway.)

I will say that my sophomore son took a summer Pre-Calculus class online through the UofA over the summer and that professor did an excellent job. She gets it. He even squeaked out an A in there.

I think, hope, they have learned better how to navigate this since the complete shut down in March.

I have no clue what will happen…but I want and need college football! Let them play!

I had a 4 point in all my math courses in college. Not a 4 point average, but a 4 point total. Four D’s adds up to 4. :rofl:See, I know a little math.

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It’s like what I said to my algebra teacher back in the day “X+1 doesn’t equal a dang thing. You can’t add letters and numbers together”.

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Depends on the major you’re in. I’m getting a second degree in Social Work and I’m in my final in class semester and one of the big problems my classmates and I will face is this last semester focuses on actual application of what we’ve learned the last 3 years and you can’t do that on-line, you have to actually be active on campus and in the community to learn what you need to for field work. I imagine it’s the same for majors like nursing.

I think it is probably easier to meet members of the opposite sex when living in a dorm and eating in the cafeteria. You have a bigger network of friends to introduce you and have the benefit of scoping out the possibilities in the cafeteria. I actually enjoyed living in Yocum my freshman year in 1969-70.

Oh, I have stories from Hotz Hall and what happened next door at Reid Hall. I don’t know if that kind of stuff happens any more. Probably not.

I also lived in the dorm for one year at UCA. That was my sophomore year. I will say that sophomores try more stuff than freshmen. Covid would have spred pretty fast in that UCA dorm. Something did spred, but it wasn’t a flu.

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Tetracycline anyone?

My son finished his Masters at UofA last Spring. He did the first year “in person” then got a job offer that was too good to pass up and moved to Kansas City. He did his second year “on line.” He told me he did as much work in the online classes as in the “in person” ones. BUT, a huge difference was, HIS online classes were designed from the get go to be online. I think it would be hard to switch to online in the middle of a term, for the professor, as how he/she had planned the course would be very different if it was planned to be online or planned to be in person. .

A professor friend of mine (teaches at UALR) told me months ago they were instructed to be able to teach the Fall classes either way/both. I think that will have an good effect for the online stuff.

My daughter is a math facilitator (she coaches the teachers) at the Lowell Elementary School in the Rogers district. They have spent the summer (normally their off time) preparing on-line teaching material for their teachers. The on-line course work for the elementary kids in the Rogers district will be far different than what they had last spring when some teachers had an idea of what to do but most did not. Several “older” teachers retired this summer because they saw what was coming and they just didn’t think they could “zoom” teach effectively. Sarah will be a principal next year. She is glad that she is not this year, although she is probably going to get plenty of experience in doing “principal stuff” this year. Nothing about what will happen this fall at schools (college, or k-12) is going to be normal. I’m convinced of that.

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I hope the only things that spread were legs.

Could the Big 10’s impending decision to cancel the season have anything to do with fending off this? Just a headline that caught my eye.
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