An attempt at an objective analysis of CBB

The buyout drops to $11ish million in one year and drops to $7.9 million in 2019. Is that manageable? Maybe, maybe not, especially with $160 million in stadium work in progress.

Meanwhile, the following from Jeff Long’s Twitter today: https://twitter.com/jefflongUA/status/815589545773334532

That date I’m thinking is gonna give him at least two more…maybe Jerry Jones’s Cowboys win the Super Bowl this year and he pays for it. Also, hell could freeze. :lol:

I saw this, a scroll through the tweets mentions is telling. Not very many hogs out there are happy. Most are very,very frustrated with BB, Long, and basketball. Figure he is feeling the pressure now.

PIG, Jimbeau, I am in near-complete agreement.

Firmly a supporter of th head coach, and have been hopeful after each of the past few seasons, until this year.

This year and trends y’all have covered, it’s troubling.

Back when I was fairly strong in the Foundation, I posted after an HDN loss that we (fans, supporters) were owed an apology. Clay shot me down quickly, saying coaches shouldn’t apologize. I was angry at the time, viewing whatever disappointment as a bad investment. No longer in the Foundation and haven’t attended a game since JLS beat Auburn (parents health declined, couldn’t keep going), as a TV fan, I’ll add this: it gives me some measure of hope that the Head Coach apologized. I think that’s important to the fan base.

Now let’s see how/if he follows through. We need him to succeed.

I remember this discussion, because Clay said that you know you’re in trouble (paraphrasing) when the HC is apologizing.

I guess I go back and forth. In a way I don’t want to hear it bc it’s just talk. On the other hand, the fans are yearning to hear or see something. The end of the season was a historic collapse in the last few games.

My hope is that they make a move and get a really good DC.

My biggest fear is that CBB doesn’t really know what to do…

It is concerning he has no experience in rebuilding a program prior to the attempt here. A stable, winning program was handed to him in Madison.

Jeff Long just tweeted:

“Razorback Nation I reject notion the sky is falling! We are strong & will make changes to become stronger!We will fight we will #Neveryield!”

I may be reading too much into this, but it sure looks like a coach or two may leave (not saying HC).
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And there are those who tell us that the AD pays no attention (doesn’t care about) and doesn’t react to those in Razorback Nation who voice displeasure with mediocre on field performance.

Obviously he has to reject the notion, Bielema is his hire and on field performance reflects upon Long just as it does Bielema.

Would have liked more info on just which part(s) he includes in the overall “strong” part.

Navy has it figured out. . .

And there are those who tell us that the AD pays no attention (doesn’t care about) and doesn’t react to those in Razorback Nation who voice displeasure with mediocre on field performance.

Obviously he has to reject the notion, Bielema is his hire and on field performance reflects upon Long just as it does Bielema.

Would have liked more info on just which part(s) he includes in the overall “strong” part.
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I would expect a tweet like that from Long. All the statistics that have been posted in this forum and tweeted indicate the program is going in the wrong direction. He is forced to say that changes would be made. What the changes will be and will the changes be effective is questionable. Coach B’s ground pound approach has not as successful as he expected. Is he willing to change this approach… who knows. On defense… yes …that has to change. Is the 3/4 defense the answer… dunno until we see the defense next year. I believe we have a good nucleus of players that can get it done. I hope that there is strong leadership within the players that can play like true Razorbacks and not wilt when adversity strikes.

I would expect a tweet like that from Long. All the statistics that have been posted in this forum and tweeted indicate the program is going in the wrong direction. He is forced to say that changes would be made. What the changes will be and will the changes be effective is questionable. Coach B’s ground pound approach has not as successful as he expected. Is he willing to change this approach… who knows. On defense… yes …that has to change. Is the 3/4 defense the answer… dunno until we see the defense next year. I believe we have a good nucleus of players that can get it done. I hope that there is strong leadership within the players that can play like true Razorbacks and not wilt when adversity strikes.
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Ground/pound? Which team have you watched the last 2 years? AA led the SEC in passing yards this year and we where 3rd (out of 14) in the league in team passing yards each of the last 2 years.

N Pig, one of the better post in some time and I expect that a lot of fans would agree, I do. I am not a big fan of the “Out Front” position that CBB takes but I may well just be more old school in that opinion. Like all of our fans I am disappointed that we cannot finish a game in the 2nd half. CBB has stated that his mantra is to be able to run the ball and establish our will in the 2nd half with the lead. Wel, l how has that worked. Don’t know if it is coaches, athletes or a combination but something has to change or we will be looking at the next prayer for a head coach. It is gonna be impossible to establish a consistent winning program in our league changing head coaches every 4-5 years so I hope he can be the one that gets it together. Now we will go through the spring looking for a savior but at least in my opinion we have a SEC quarterback who can compete. Happy New Year to all of my Hog buddies. Have a safe 2017!

I would expect a tweet like that from Long. All the statistics that have been posted in this forum and tweeted indicate the program is going in the wrong direction. He is forced to say that changes would be made. What the changes will be and will the changes be effective is questionable. Coach B’s ground pound approach has not as successful as he expected. Is he willing to change this approach… who knows. On defense… yes …that has to change. Is the 3/4 defense the answer… dunno until we see the defense next year. I believe we have a good nucleus of players that can get it done. I hope that there is strong leadership within the players that can play like true Razorbacks and not wilt when adversity strikes.
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There is a reason and most know it; some do but don’t want to admit it.

Truth is there are a number of teams in any given year and on any given Saturday in the SEC that have a front seven just as strong or stronger than BB’s OL.

In the West Division there is Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M and sometimes MsSt. The East Division is not as strong but I would include Ga and Fla for sure.

When you add Ole Miss and Mizzo, BB will likely not ever do much better than 4-4 in Conference.

The years he does better will be the outlier, IMO.

Hell, even Saban moved away from an exclusive smash-mouth approach; if he recognizes the difficulty with it, an undermanned Arkansas team will continue to struggle most years.

Now why did you change your post and numbers? I saw different numbers in an article and you also changed your post. Got a link. No, that is obviously not manageable.

edit…I see, Doc Harper. When you change your whole post, you should at least explain and provide a post.

Here it is: http://posting.arktimes.com/media/pdf/b … ndment.pdf

If this is his contract, he ain’t going nowhere people.

There is a reason and most know it; some do but don’t want to admit it.

Truth is there are a number of teams in any given year and on any given Saturday in the SEC that have a front seven just as strong or stronger than BB’s OL.

In the West Division there is Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M and sometimes MsSt. The East Division is not as strong but I would include Ga and Fla for sure.

When you add Ole Miss and Mizzo, BB will likely not ever do much better than 4-4 in Conference.

The years he does better will be the outlier, IMO.

Hell, even Saban moved away from an exclusive smash-mouth approach; if he recognizes the difficulty with it, an undermanned Arkansas team will continue to struggle most years.
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Again, what games have you been watching where we are “exclusive smash-mouth approach”?

It’s baffling to me that people continue to repeat this stuff.

Austin Allen led the SEC in passing yards this season and each of the past 2 years as a team we have finished 3rd out of 14 SEC teams in passing.

We had 400 yds passing on Bama.

What has to happen for people to stop saying something that just isn’t true (that we are a ground and pound, 1-dimensional offense)?

Ground/pound? Which team have you watched the last 2 years? AA led the SEC in passing yards this year and we where 3rd (out of 14) in the league in team passing yards each of the last 2 years.
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I don’t discount what you say. However, as has been posted, when go against a good front seven and become one dimensional we haven’t fared very well… you only have to watch the second half of the Belk bowl and I was there.

I don’t discount what you say. However, as has been posted, when go against a good front seven and become one dimensional we haven’t fared very well… you only have to watch the second half of the Belk bowl and I was there.
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Any team that is one-dimensional isn’t going to fare well (usually). But, you and others keep saying that our approach is ground/pound run-heavy, one-dimensional and that simply isn’t the case. It’s pro/style and very balanced.

So, now that I pointed that out, you have switched the statement to, when we go against a good front 7, we don’t fare well.

That isn’t always true, either. We had 400 yards passing and 30 points on Bama. We carved up the SECE champ, Fla. for 38 points and a very balanced 466 yards (243 passing 223 rushing).

Tamu is thought to have one of the next best DL (#1 overall pick probably) and we had 371 yards passing on them.

The offense struggled to protect and was feast of famine.

But, it absolutely was NOT one-dimensional, ground and pound, run heavy the way you and many others characterize it.

That matters because one of the best selling points we have right now is that we run a true NFL, pro-style offense and we put offensive players at every position in the league.

So, please stop posting things that are just untrue.

I think Nororious has started a credible chain.

I personally think coach B is solid and like him.

Runs a clean program etc.

My only real criticism/observation is his sideline demeanor during games which doesn’t inspire confidence (yes thought his arguing call was nice).

I felt against Missourri and Tech that if we had a Holtz he would have gotten everyone’s attention and team would have fed off of him. Sometimes on sidelines it seems like he doesn’t care (we know he does). Would have given anything to see him thrown down his watch ala Hotlz and inspire team in emotional way. May have been all we needed because team was clearly uninspired in second halfs last couple games.

I’m in minority but I have thought for years Arkansas expects a coaching personality alone to overcome dramatic recruiting disadvantages we don’t even like to acknowledged ourselves.

I don’t blame a head coach at Arkansas for systemic recruiting disadvantage that no AD administration has overcome.

Unfair to blame an AD for recruiting because AD’s at the bigs don’t have to care.

But it’s the X factor at Arkansas. Would be impressed with AD if he dedicated plans to innovate in this area which may mean ten times the resources of other bigs within the law for us to upgrade talent enough to be a more consistent respected top program. I wonder sometimes if that is even a goal of Administration.

I don’t believe Arkansas can’t compete at the top nationally respected levels year in and out.

I’m disappointed Coach B could not motivate the last two games to beat teams we are superior to at this time and hate that it impacts perception of program.

AD deserves tremendous credit for improving facilities and getting some name play on national committees.

My hope is for AD not reacting now to the obvious, but developing a real plan to overcome talent deficit Arkansas has faced against the bigs for years.

i doubt any coach in America could fix the historic recruting deficit without a very strong AD leadership to overcome.

May not be fair because AD’s with the bigs rarely have to be involved in this area to the degree we need.

I think this AD can lead this program and show that Arkansas can be at the top.

Coach B can get us where we want to go, but this is going to take a lot of help and leadership and innovative planning perhaps as never before in our modern program history to overcome against the kind of talent we must - and rightly want to compete against. We belong in the SEC among the best.

Even after embarrassing last two games I still believe this program can compete at nationally respected top levels more years than not.

I’ve never been a Bret guy, but in 13 when we played USCe and got blown out, I saw him call a timeout and do exactly that. I don’t know what happened in the last two games.

On another note, that’s also an issue I’ve always had with CMA. There are times when I feel he should be channeling his inner Nolan or Bobby Knight.

Any team that is one-dimensional isn’t going to fare well (usually). But, you and others keep saying that our approach is ground/pound run-heavy, one-dimensional and that simply isn’t the case. It’s pro/style and very balanced.

So, now that I pointed that out, you have switched the statement to, when we go against a good front 7, we don’t fare well.

That isn’t always true, either. We had 400 yards passing and 30 points on Bama. We carved up the SECE champ, Fla. for 38 points and a very balanced 466 yards (243 passing 223 rushing).

Tamu is thought to have one of the next best DL (#1 overall pick probably) and we had 371 yards passing on them.

The offense struggled to protect and was feast of famine.

But, it absolutely was NOT one-dimensional, ground and pound, run heavy the way you and many others characterize it.

That matters because one of the best selling points we have right now is that we run a true NFL, pro-style offense and we put offensive players at every position in the league.

So, please stop posting things that are just untrue.
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Okay, we run a pro-style offense that struggles to run against good front 7 defensive players. If my memory serves me right, the pro-style offense couldn’t get the ball over the goal line from inside the 5 yard line against A&M. I agree that when the offense clicks, it’s fun to watch, but right now we have problems. Most posts say that the oline takes the longest gel. Hopefully by next year, the online will be there and our offense will dominate.