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Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby doubtingbob » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:21 pm

When you have 6 quarterbacks, you have none!

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby SoArkHog » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:56 pm

Most universities have five or six. One (Jack Lindsey) is not likely to take meaningful snaps except on special teams. Two (Connor Noland and John Stephen Jones) are freshmen who likely will play some because of the new redshirt rule. If one of them steps up and plays well, they may not be redshirted, but if they can't outplay the other three, they are likely to be redshirted. Daulton Hyatt apparently has not played well enough in the fall camp to be considered in the top two, but does not say he will not emerge. And then there are two, Cole Kelley and Ty Storey, one of which eventually should emerge as the starter. Neither may and that will open the door to the others. It appears to be a two-man race for now (they took the vast majority of snaps yesterday with the 1s).

I don't think the situation is dire. I don't think starting the season with two QBs is awful, though it's never idea. But I seem to remember some fans on here being upset when Arkansas had a clear starter coming into the season (BA or AA). Some are never content.

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby EuroHog » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:00 pm

Better than having two. If you have an injury you are in big trouble, two injuries and you are finished altogether. With concussion protocol in play, time off line for quarterbacks is not uncommon. Anyway, the average fan has no idea what the real situation is with the quarterbacks. The coaches can be encouraging competition by not naming a starter. Most likely Storey and Kelley just have not separated themselves sufficiently from each other, or from a couple of the underclassmen. The freshmen know they are likely to redshirt, but thanks to the new rule, may get to play in a few games if we get to cleanup situations. Whatever, I would rather go into any season with six QBs than two, especially considering the condition of the offensive line. If the line doesn't protect in this system, we may need to rotate QBs.

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby SilverFox » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:16 am

SO MUCH of the quality of QB play is dependent upon the quality of the OL play. Even a top-notch, premium quality, sharp-passing field general cannot succeed without protection and without adequate time and space within which to effectively operate. Competence MUST start at the line of scrimmage, - - or else there will be no competence shown.

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby Hogbacker » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:08 am

SilverFox wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:16 am
SO MUCH of the quality of QB play is dependent upon the quality of the OL play. Even a top-notch, premium quality, sharp-passing field general cannot succeed without protection and without adequate time and space within which to effectively operate. Competence MUST start at the line of scrimmage, - - or else there will be no competence shown.
Good post, as both Allen boys are getting a chance at the next level shows that someone thinks they can play a little if they have a good O line. It seems one of CBB problems is becoming one of CCM problems not being able to keep the O line guys healthy. Lack of depth and then combine injuries and you run into a tough situation quickly, keeping my fingers crossed and hoping things get better soon. WPS

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby Dfarris » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:11 pm

I think it will be evident early on if the offense will be able to produce or not. If they struggle against the likes of Eastern Illinois, North Texas and on the road at Colorado State ( Hawaii scored over 40 @ CSU and won ) then it will be another sub .500 season. However, if they can handle these games with ease then they have a punchers chance to also beat Tulsa, Vanderbilt. Where a sixth win cold come from is difficult to say. I’ll not be too critical this season because I don’t have high expectations, year three the expectations should be elevated.

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how About Story now?We Have 6 q.v. and none can play better than Stormy?

Postby doubtingbob » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:30 pm

Q.v. play.We have 6 q.v. and none can play better than Storey?

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby Dfarris » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:55 pm

Obviously, we have a QB problem.
Storey wasn’t able to do anything today and even though Kelley came in and made a couple of good throws, his lack of agility outside of the pocket will be a problem for him against teams that will apply pressure on him for exactly that reason.
I believe we are going to see as many as five QB’s get an opportunity to play this season because we don’t have any true #1 QB.
It’s going to be another ugly season, but I didn’t have high expectations for this season. It’s going to take a couple of good recruiting classes to see if Coach Morris can get this program back to respectability.

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby Dfarris » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:25 pm

TommyRocks18,

I don’t know if you’re a Hog fan or not, but that type of language has no place on this or any forum, it doesn’t serve any purpose whatsoever and just puts you in a poor light as a person.
If you are a Hog fan, I’m not sure what your expectations were going to be for this season, but I think most fans understand this wasn’t going to be a quick turnaround for any staff.
Having said that, I agree Coach made a mistake by not going for it on 4th and 1 and that’s on him not the players.
It’s going to be another bad season, but to start the name calling as you did shows a complete lack of class and understanding, so do Hog fans a favor and either clean up your act or stay the hell off this forum!

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Re: Arkansas quarterbachs

Postby Gay » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:21 am

Dfarris wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:25 pm
I agree Coach made a mistake by not going for it on 4th and 1 and that’s on him not the players.
Punting was the proper call. All coaches would punt at the 50 yard line if they knew the other team would get the ball on the 4 yard line. The problem was the defense didn't hold them. That is no one's fault. We just need better players.

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