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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby StillGregHog » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:26 pm

Swine Fusion wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:05 pm
dwp007 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:03 pm
The reference to the Fayetteville campus for the flagship state university is both offensive and insulting to any Razorback fan with half a brain. For whatever reason, the better writers on staff do not use the redundant, unnecessary reference. Folks like Wally and others, I stopped reading, and frankly, you can get better written stories involving Razorback news from numerous other sources.

One of the writers at WHS gave me the names of two individuals at the AD-G several months ago and suggested that I contact them and complain. I did so, and to this day, a reason for the boneheaded policy has not be provided. In fact, neither of my emails were even acknowledged.

Several days ago, I did receive an email from the AD-G asking that I renew my subscription. I declined and told them the primary reason was due to the absurd "policy" of providing the campus whereabouts for University of Arkansas sporting events. I also suggested that they may want to check with their subscribers, for I personally know a number of folks who have cancelled or not renewed subscriptions for the same reason.

Unmitigated, unexplained nonsense - in addition to poor writing practices.

Go Hogs.
Yes they use it. And if they don't, the copy desk is instructed to put UA, F in for them, so it doesn't matter. Any omission is a copy desk screwup, not a victory for our side

But this is all beating a dead horse. I don't believe Richard is correct, though. They don't use UA, F because of what the Board of Trustees does or doesn't do. They use it to throw a bone to people in Little Rock who are still offended that the capital city doesn't have the flagship campus. Those people would still be offended if the trustees took official action. And if ASU had a Little Rock branch, it would probably be ASU, J as well.

And, by the way, my diploma doesn't say University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. It says University of Arkansas. I trust that a lot more than I trust a website.

Yes, yes and yes! And still waiting to see where the Trustees “named it” University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. Can’t find that anywhere.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby dwp007 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:53 pm

StillGregHog wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:26 pm
Swine Fusion wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:05 pm
dwp007 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:03 pm
The reference to the Fayetteville campus for the flagship state university is both offensive and insulting to any Razorback fan with half a brain. For whatever reason, the better writers on staff do not use the redundant, unnecessary reference. Folks like Wally and others, I stopped reading, and frankly, you can get better written stories involving Razorback news from numerous other sources.

One of the writers at WHS gave me the names of two individuals at the AD-G several months ago and suggested that I contact them and complain. I did so, and to this day, a reason for the boneheaded policy has not be provided. In fact, neither of my emails were even acknowledged.

Several days ago, I did receive an email from the AD-G asking that I renew my subscription. I declined and told them the primary reason was due to the absurd "policy" of providing the campus whereabouts for University of Arkansas sporting events. I also suggested that they may want to check with their subscribers, for I personally know a number of folks who have cancelled or not renewed subscriptions for the same reason.

Unmitigated, unexplained nonsense - in addition to poor writing practices.

Go Hogs.
Yes they use it. And if they don't, the copy desk is instructed to put UA, F in for them, so it doesn't matter. Any omission is a copy desk screwup, not a victory for our side

But this is all beating a dead horse. I don't believe Richard is correct, though. They don't use UA, F because of what the Board of Trustees does or doesn't do. They use it to throw a bone to people in Little Rock who are still offended that the capital city doesn't have the flagship campus. Those people would still be offended if the trustees took official action. And if ASU had a Little Rock branch, it would probably be ASU, J as well.

And, by the way, my diploma doesn't say University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. It says University of Arkansas. I trust that a lot more than I trust a website.

Yes, yes and yes! And still waiting to see where the Trustees “named it” University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. Can’t find that anywhere.
That's interesting. I have never seen the Fayetteville reference in any of Dudley's writings, but regardless, his comment is more of an explanation, as opposed to a reason for such boneheaded silliness. I have yet to see a logical reason for identifying the campus whereabouts of the University of Arkansas. Your theory sounds a lot more believable than some of the other speculation.

As to beating a dead horse, although some of us have allowed our subscription to lapse because of the deceased, the pony should continue to be occasionally beaten, in my opinion, until someone, somewhere with the AD-G provides a reasonable explanation for the insanity. The two individuals who I was referred to had neither the time nor courtesy to even respond to my emails, which made for an easy decision when asked to renew my subscription.

Unlike you, I am not a graduate of the UA, but as with many, the campus reference is both offensive to read and insulting to intelligence, nonetheless.

Go Hogs.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby SoArkHog » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:33 pm

dwp007 wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:53 pm
StillGregHog wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:26 pm
Swine Fusion wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:05 pm

Yes they use it. And if they don't, the copy desk is instructed to put UA, F in for them, so it doesn't matter. Any omission is a copy desk screwup, not a victory for our side

But this is all beating a dead horse. I don't believe Richard is correct, though. They don't use UA, F because of what the Board of Trustees does or doesn't do. They use it to throw a bone to people in Little Rock who are still offended that the capital city doesn't have the flagship campus. Those people would still be offended if the trustees took official action. And if ASU had a Little Rock branch, it would probably be ASU, J as well.

And, by the way, my diploma doesn't say University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. It says University of Arkansas. I trust that a lot more than I trust a website.

Yes, yes and yes! And still waiting to see where the Trustees “named it” University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. Can’t find that anywhere.
That's interesting. I have never seen the Fayetteville reference in any of Dudley's writings, but regardless, his comment is more of an explanation, as opposed to a reason for such boneheaded silliness. I have yet to see a logical reason for identifying the campus whereabouts of the University of Arkansas. Your theory sounds a lot more believable than some of the other speculation.

As to beating a dead horse, although some of us have allowed our subscription to lapse because of the deceased, the pony should continue to be occasionally beaten, in my opinion, until someone, somewhere with the AD-G provides a reasonable explanation for the insanity. The two individuals who I was referred to had neither the time nor courtesy to even respond to my emails, which made for an easy decision when asked to renew my subscription.

Unlike you, I am not a graduate of the UA, but as with many, the campus reference is both offensive to read and insulting to intelligence, nonetheless.

Go Hogs.
While Dudley does writing for the ADG, he's mostly writing for Hawgs illustrated and this website. IIRC, many of Richard's artciles that show up only on the website do not contain it. It is my understanding--and I may very well be wrong--that only articles that appear in the actual ADG have this wonderful (sarcasm) distinction.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby BaumbasticHawg » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:44 pm

SoArkHog wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:33 pm
While Dudley does writing for the ADG, he's mostly writing for Hawgs illustrated and this website. IIRC, many of Richard's artciles that show up only on the website do not contain it. It is my understanding--and I may very well be wrong--that only articles that appear in the actual ADG have this wonderful (sarcasm) distinction.
You are correct. Hawgs Illustrated (and thus this web site/forum) does not use that verbiage.
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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby Snout_ » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:17 am

Why would a company put its writers and editorial staffs on opposite sides of this UAF issue? MARKETING! This is one company (WEHCO Media) that directly or indirectly owns the Dem/Gaz, WholeHogSports and Hawgsillustated. It makes a number of us angry. We turn to other sources. Hawgsillustated has made it clear that they do not and will never use the reference. This may have caused many folks to start subscriptions at Hawgsillustated. Somehow WEHCO has connived a plan to add subscribers in total to their subsidiaries by stirring up a fake controversy. This may not be exactly correct but I'll bet it's close.

We're suckers. We've all been asking why for over a year without a legitimate answer. The financial bottom line is usually the reason for all business decisions even when they don't make sense.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby hogreality » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:25 pm

Snout_ wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:17 am
Why would a company put its writers and editorial staffs on opposite sides of this UAF issue? MARKETING! This is one company (WEHCO Media) that directly or indirectly owns the Dem/Gaz, WholeHogSports and Hawgsillustated. It makes a number of us angry. We turn to other sources. Hawgsillustated has made it clear that they do not and will never use the reference. This may have caused many folks to start subscriptions at Hawgsillustated. Somehow WEHCO has connived a plan to add subscribers in total to their subsidiaries by stirring up a fake controversy. This may not be exactly correct but I'll bet it's close.

We're suckers. We've all been asking why for over a year without a legitimate answer. The financial bottom line is usually the reason for all business decisions even when they don't make sense.
cancel like I did

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby hogreality » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:30 am

BaumbasticHawg wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:44 pm
SoArkHog wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:33 pm
While Dudley does writing for the ADG, he's mostly writing for Hawgs illustrated and this website. IIRC, many of Richard's artciles that show up only on the website do not contain it. It is my understanding--and I may very well be wrong--that only articles that appear in the actual ADG have this wonderful (sarcasm) distinction.
You are correct. Hawgs Illustrated (and thus this web site/forum) does not use that verbiage.
That Van Horn quote is absolutely classic

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby Dfarris » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:44 am

How many of you folks actually buy a news paper any more?
The news paper business is becoming increasingly obsolete in this immediate Information Age through social media and they are beginning to feel the effects of how irrelevant they are becoming.
Couple that with the fact that Little Rock is becoming like many other capital cities around the country, not as relevant to its states economy as it once was because of bad business decisions in the past.
Just look at the growth over the last 25 years in cities like Bryant, Conway and NW Arkansas? Little Rock just hasn’t kept pace and the local paper and its University of Arkansas, Fayetteville is an example of envy.
It’s sort of like “Little man’s syndrome”, when the little guy has to talk loud and appear to be a tough guy, or the “Midlife Crisis” dude buys the sports car or gal gets a facelift to try to look younger. Neither of these examples actually change the facts in either situation just like the fact that Little Rock just doesn’t have much to offer these days.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville

Postby dwp007 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:05 pm

As with a number of readers, I did not renew my subscribtion with the AD-G and WHS. While I will take the time to answer the survey questions to read certain writers, Wally Hall, Little Rock, is not one of them. I did answer a survey question to read Dudley Dawson today, and evidently, as a "bonus", Hall's article was also freely available.

Here's the beginning of the article:

" Early Friday morning sitting in Little Caesars Arena, your trusty scribe found an email that said the office pool for the NCAA Tournament had survived.

Picks had been made on CBSsports.com and then it was discovered that Walter Webb, who always runs the pool, still had the flu and there would be no pool. Later Jeremy Muck offered to take it over and someone with better computer skills found my bracket and transferred it into the office pool.

It was a good feeling, having gone 14-2 on Thursday, which was a tie for the led.

Then there was Friday and the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville Razorbacks who were in my Sweet 16, showed up in the arena, but one more time this season they forgot something." :roll:

Again, I wouldn't have tapped into Hall's story, but for the free availability of it. Regardless, following the redundant and insane reference for the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville Razorbacks, I didn't read anything further. When any self proclaimed "trusty scribe" and/or sports editor either uses such ridiculous and poorly writtten content involving the University of Arkansas' campus location, or permits someone else to do so, from here on, my reading stops there.

Go Hogs.

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Re: Again, U of A, Fayetteville--Other Sports

Postby Tuschawg » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:00 pm

Rknsaw wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:39 am
Maybe if we continuously inundate the message board with new topics on this subject we'll get a response.
I just read an article on the Razorbacks gymnastics team and found it interesting that "Arkansas" was used without the "Fayetteville" designation; therefore, whoever is doing this at the Ark DemoGazette is trying to upset only basketball and football fans. Further, there must be no overall ADG policy to clarify which school in Arkansas hosts the Razorbacks since they do not use this strategy for all sports, but rather are selective.

To me that means there is only one guy ordering this nonsense, and he is not sincere about an overall sports policy clarifying the Arkansas schools.

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