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Re: DC

Postby doghog72 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:41 pm

Dfarris wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:42 pm
Well, I want to give Coach Morris time before judgement, but when you say you’re going to hire the best DC in the country and you can’t deliver on that you probably should be cautious with your comments.
Brett said he was going to win championships and we won nothing, while he won the Buyout Lottery.
I certainly hope that folks have learned their lessons on the buyout terms and we never get into that situation again.
I doubt seriously that Chavis has the fire to get the job done, his best days are well in the rear view mirror. I would much rather hitch our wagon to a young, hungry defensive coach. If Chavis is hired I’ll wish them all the best and I hope they don’t pay this guy 2 million per year because that would be a waste in my opinion.
Coach Morris will have until the end of year 3 to prove what he can produce or not, so he had better choose the DC he believes can get it done.
Well the best defensive coordinator is a matter of opinion. You may not think it is Chavis, but maybe he does? Or even maybe it is someone else

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Re: DC

Postby StillGregHog » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:53 pm

Dfarris wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:42 pm
Well, I want to give Coach Morris time before judgement, but when you say you’re going to hire the best DC in the country and you can’t deliver on that you probably should be cautious with your comments.
Brett said he was going to win championships and we won nothing
, while he won the Buyout Lottery.
I certainly hope that folks have learned their lessons on the buyout terms and we never get into that situation again.
I doubt seriously that Chavis has the fire to get the job done, his best days are well in the rear view mirror. I would much rather hitch our wagon to a young, hungry defensive coach. If Chavis is hired I’ll wish them all the best and I hope they don’t pay this guy 2 million per year because that would be a waste in my opinion.
Coach Morris will have until the end of year 3 to prove what he can produce or not, so he had better choose the DC he believes can get it done.
People have been complaining about BB's statement and now CM's. Really people. What do you expect a coach to say. "we are going to go 6-6 or even 7-5 folks, lets be happy about it! Our goal is to be Tiger Bate for LSU and to always lose to Bama." Of course he said he was going to win championships. I wouldn't want a coach to say other wise.

What was Morris supposed to say, "we are going to hire average to below average assistants." Of COURSE he is going to say he is going to hire the best DC. Good Lord people.

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Re: DC

Postby pghawg1 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:40 pm

If I remember right, didn't Petrino say we would be playing for championships at his first P.C. I don't want a coach to say we r not going to be the best. If he said we would try to be average at best I don't want him .

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Re: DC

Postby SoArkHog » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:18 pm

StillGregHog wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:53 pm
Dfarris wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:42 pm
Well, I want to give Coach Morris time before judgement, but when you say you’re going to hire the best DC in the country and you can’t deliver on that you probably should be cautious with your comments.
Brett said he was going to win championships and we won nothing
, while he won the Buyout Lottery.
I certainly hope that folks have learned their lessons on the buyout terms and we never get into that situation again.
I doubt seriously that Chavis has the fire to get the job done, his best days are well in the rear view mirror. I would much rather hitch our wagon to a young, hungry defensive coach. If Chavis is hired I’ll wish them all the best and I hope they don’t pay this guy 2 million per year because that would be a waste in my opinion.
Coach Morris will have until the end of year 3 to prove what he can produce or not, so he had better choose the DC he believes can get it done.
People have been complaining about BB's statement and now CM's. Really people. What do you expect a coach to say. "we are going to go 6-6 or even 7-5 folks, lets be happy about it! Our goal is to be Tiger Bate for LSU and to always lose to Bama." Of course he said he was going to win championships. I wouldn't want a coach to say other wise.

What was Morris supposed to say, "we are going to hire average to below average assistants." Of COURSE he is going to say he is going to hire the best DC. Good Lord people.
This ^^^

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Re: DC

Postby Dfarris » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:44 am

Just to clarify, I’m not saying that I won’t give my full support behind the Razorbacks if the DC job ends up going to Chavis because I most certainly will.
I also understand that any new coach has to put out a positive vibe at the press conference, but they could make better choices in their proclamations of championships which can only lead to their dismissal if those self proclaimed expectations are not met.
However, with the way coaches contractual buyout clauses are set up these days I guess they have no financial downside.
Coaches have to be politicians these days and that’s a shame.

I’m wondering if it I Chavis why hasn’t it already been announced? Could it be that he is on hold as plan B until these playoff games are over and Coach Morris has exhausted all other options from the NCAA or NFL coaching ranks? Stay tuned, we’ll all soon know the answer.

Go Hogs!

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Re: DC

Postby DistantHog » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:24 am

Just seems odd that we didn't get a DC hired 'after TAMUs bowl game' - so I'm not buying the 'still working the numbers' discussion. Now that Clemson is done, lets see what happens with Venables. Wondering if he wants a change .... and we know he has a good relationship with Morris. If its Chavis, the delay since last week seems ... odd. I'm sticking with Venables until proven wrong (with my recent suggestions, that may not take long :-)

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Re: DC

Postby PepsiFree » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:28 am

Perhaps the explanation for the delay lies in the guarantee clause of Mr. Chavis contract with the Aggies. It might have been simply prudent to wait until 2018 in terms of the amount of money Chavis/we would owe the Aggies OR the Aggie would owe him for the hire prior to 2018. (I don't know...just speculating.)

It would be refreshing to operate intelligently concerning finances rather than the follow the example set by Mr. Long with buyouts (and other things as well).

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Re: DC

Postby fchog63 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:17 am

So, I realize it's a long shot to land Venables, and it may well be a money issue they are working out with Chavis. One (hopeful) thought. The one job everyone seems to think Venables would take as a head coach, just got filled today. Snyder announced he's staying at K-State and he wants his son to replace him. Maybe another run is being made his way?

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Re: DC

Postby fchog63 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:29 am

The Scoop has now said that Arkansas has hired an assistant from Clemson. Justin Speros. Has been a student assistant for four years and will help with recruiting and other things. Could more from Clemson head this way?

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Re: DC

Postby McHawg » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:24 pm

Give Venables Chavis' type money and make him assistant head coach.

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